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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 7, 2011 6:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

First off, lets make sure there is one: Does everyone agree that if we take this top ten (anyone's above, but it has to have Cuckoo, has to have KillingFields, has to have Annie Hall, has to have Amer Graf...?), and compare with previous, earlier period top ten, it's NO comparison?

IE, that once again, earlier is "better"?

If you do agree, and no problem if you don't, dumbass, then the question is "why?"

Is it simply that we need a few decades to really come to grips with what is "best"? IE, we are too "close" to recent movies?

Or, is it that movies are somewhat lesser these days? I doubt this is strictly speaking true.

My notion is that it depends entirely on how you experienced them, time period you were raised in, etc., etc., coupled with actors USED to be generally much better (there are many exceptions, Rob will alert me to, cause we both love many of them) than they are today, in general.

Think of great ones, Hollywood stars of the day, and then think of those around now. There are no Bogies, Pecks or Newmans and Brandos walking around these days are there?

What's your take? Another case of early era wins, per usual?

;)

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 7, 2011 7:49am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

If you're going to go for 'earlier is better' then you have to go earlier than 1954 in my view. For example, these unsurpassed classics from 1940 to 1953.

Fantasia
The Grapes of Wrath
The Philadelphia Story
Citizen Kane
The Maltese Falcon
Casablanca
Double Indemnity
Meet Me In St Louis
To Have and Have Not
The Lost Weekend
The Big Sleep
It's A Wonderful Life
My Darling Clementine
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
White Heat
Sunset Boulevard
An American In Paris
The Day the Earth Stood Still
Strangers on a Train
High Noon
Singin'in the Rain
Shane

(and I'd take the last three on that list ahead of just about anything else on any other list)

Did I miss anything significant?

Got to agree with you on star quality of today versus yesterday. Bogart and Bacall or Pitt and Jolie? No contest, none whatsoever.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 7, 2011 8:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

Ah...concordance is a beautiful thing, eh?

I would only pt out that you forgot (I am sure it was just a slip), one of my TOP TEN all time: Petrified Forest, with not only our friend, Bogie, but another we've spoken of, from your side of the pond, Leslie Howard (a great). Not to mention, Betty D.

I have watched that many times with my artsy son--he considers it one of the all time greats, which surprises me for a "kid", if you take my meaning.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 7, 2011 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

Ah, yes, your point very well taken, but Petrified Forest was 1936 and I only went from 1940 to 1953.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 7, 2011 8:45am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

Gotcha; missed that tidbit!

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 7, 2011 8:31am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

I think most films out of 'Hollywood' or through that system have declined dramatically. Superheros, formulaic RomCom's, CGI green screen city, sequel's wrung dry of any juice, chases scenes galore, vampires, and Rob Zombies self declared 'torture porn'. It's boring. Maybe we aren't even the market anymore. Maybe it's all downstream revenue from Asia the Hollywood 'exec's' are looking for.

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Jan 7, 2011 7:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

killing fields is british

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 7, 2011 8:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: What's the problem?

Ah--did forget that; good catch.

What say you to the general proposition?

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